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www.openldap.org not mobile-friendly
Hallvard Breien Furuseth
2015-04-14 08:18:05 UTC
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Content preview: It will drop in Google's ratings next week because it fails
the <https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/> tests. Maybe
someone can fix the web pages up a bit? I'm too busy now. -- Hallvard [...]


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It will drop in Google's ratings next week because it fails the
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/> tests.
Maybe someone can fix the web pages up a bit? I'm too busy now.
--
Hallvard
Clément OUDOT
2015-04-14 18:53:02 UTC
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Content preview: 2015-04-14 10:18 GMT+02:00 Hallvard Breien Furuseth : > It
will drop in Google's ratings next week because it fails the > <https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/>
tests. > Maybe someone can fix the web pages up a bit? I'm too busy now.
[...]

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Post by Hallvard Breien Furuseth
It will drop in Google's ratings next week because it fails the
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/> tests.
Maybe someone can fix the web pages up a bit? I'm too busy now.
Hi,

I think we need some work to have a better website. I could try to
propose a new version that uses Bootstrap to support mobile view. What
is the best way to work on this topic?


Clément.
Michael Ströder
2015-04-14 21:53:13 UTC
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Post by Hallvard Breien Furuseth
It will drop in Google's ratings next week because it fails the
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/> tests.
Maybe someone can fix the web pages up a bit? I'm too busy now.
Already fixed in the mean-time?

https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openldap.org

Or Google changed its service?
I think we need some work to have a better website. I could try to propose
a new version that uses Bootstrap to support mobile view. What is the best
way to work on this topic?
I have to admit that I'm not too excited of today's standard "responsive
design" of most web sites. Bear in mind the audience visiting OpenLDAP's web
site: Most times those are admins sitting at their normal workstation (with
large screens) looking for technical information while working out a specific
issue.

In general OpenLDAP's web site needs a careful update. But not this bootstrap
stuff which is not usable with normal browsers without excessive scrolling.

Given that all my web sites receive the Google mobile rating
"Awesome! This page is mobile-friendly."
it's obviously possible to achieve a good ranking with minimal effort for a
normal web site.

I found it helpful to follow some of the hints given by this service:

https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openldap.org

One of the most important things was to add this to <head> section:

<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1">

I've deliberately ignored some other suggestions though.

Ciao, Michael.
Evelyn Scidmore
2015-04-14 22:56:56 UTC
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Content preview: On 4/14/2015 2:53 PM, Michael Ströder wrote: > Clément OUDOT
Post by Michael Ströder
It will drop in Google's ratings next week because it fails the >>> <https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/>
tests. >>> Maybe someone can fix the web pages up a bit? I'm too busy now.
Post by Michael Ströder
Already fixed in the mean-time? Since I have easy access to make the
changes, I went ahead and fixed this so that for most purposes in non-mobile
browsers things look the same, but on mobile browsers everything is more
friendly. The whole site could probably use a revamp at some point, but solving
the problem in front of us here (the concern about google page rankings)
without having to rework the site completely was pretty simple: [...]

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Content preview: On 4/14/2015 2:53 PM, Michael Ströder wrote: > Clément OUDOT
Post by Michael Ströder
It will drop in Google's ratings next week because it fails the >>> <https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/>
tests. >>> Maybe someone can fix the web pages up a bit? I'm too busy now.
Post by Michael Ströder
Already fixed in the mean-time? Since I have easy access to make the
changes, I went ahead and fixed this so that for most purposes in non-mobile
browsers things look the same, but on mobile browsers everything is more
friendly. The whole site could probably use a revamp at some point, but solving
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Post by Michael Ströder
2015-04-14 10:18 GMT+02:00 Hallvard Breien Furuseth
It will drop in Google's ratings next week because it fails the
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/> tests.
Maybe someone can fix the web pages up a bit? I'm too busy now.
Already fixed in the mean-time?
Since I have easy access to make the changes, I went ahead and fixed
this so that for most purposes in non-mobile browsers things look the
same, but on mobile browsers everything is more friendly. The whole
site could probably use a revamp at some point, but solving the problem
in front of us here (the concern about google page rankings) without
having to rework the site completely was pretty simple:

* As Michael Ströder said, adding <meta name="viewport"
content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1">
* Changing the table with the bullet points on the main page so that
it's using floating divs instead of tables with columns, letting it wrap
properly for very narrow (mobile) displays.

The end result is that it should look the same for most users. For
anyone who is using a small display, it should function without pushing
everything off the side of the screen. Google's analysis tool now calls
it mobile friendly.

-Evelyn
Clément OUDOT
2015-04-15 06:57:20 UTC
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Content preview: 2015-04-15 0:56 GMT+02:00 Evelyn Scidmore : > On 4/14/2015
2:53 PM, Michael Ströder wrote: >> >> Clément OUDOT wrote: >>> >>> 2015-04-14
10:18 GMT+02:00 Hallvard Breien Furuseth >>> : >>>> >>>> It will drop in
Google's ratings next week because it fails the >>>> <https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/>
tests. >>>> Maybe someone can fix the web pages up a bit? I'm too busy now.
Post by Clément OUDOT
Post by Hallvard Breien Furuseth
Already fixed in the mean-time? > > Since I have easy access to
make the changes, I went ahead and fixed this so > that for most purposes
in non-mobile browsers things look the same, but on > mobile browsers everything
is more friendly. The whole site could probably > use a revamp at some point,
but solving the problem in front of us here (the > concern about google page
* As Michael Ströder said, adding <meta name="viewport" > content="width�vice-width,
initial-scale=1"> > * Changing the table with the bullet points on the main
page so that it's > using floating divs instead of tables with columns, letting
it wrap properly > for very narrow (mobile) displays. > > The end result
is that it should look the same for most users. For anyone > who is using
a small display, it should function without pushing everything > off the side
of the screen. Google's analysis tool now calls it mobile > friendly. [...]


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Content preview: 2015-04-15 0:56 GMT+02:00 Evelyn Scidmore : > On 4/14/2015
2:53 PM, Michael Ströder wrote: >> >> Clément OUDOT wrote: >>> >>> 2015-04-14
10:18 GMT+02:00 Hallvard Breien Furuseth >>> : >>>> >>>> It will drop in
Google's ratings next week because it fails the >>>> <https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/>
tests. >>>> Maybe someone can fix the web pages up a bit? I'm too busy now.
Post by Clément OUDOT
Post by Hallvard Breien Furuseth
Already fixed in the mean-time? > > Since I have easy access to
make the changes, I went ahead and fixed this so > that for most purposes
in non-mobile browsers things look the same, but on > mobile browsers everything
is more friendly. The whole site could probably > use a revamp at some point,
but solving the problem in front of us here (the > concern about google page
* As Michael Ströder said, adding <meta name="viewport" > content="width�vice-width,
initial-scale=1"> > * Changing the table with the bullet points on the main
page so that it's > using floating divs instead of tables with columns, letting
it wrap properly > for very narrow (mobile) displays. > > The end result
is that it should look the same for most users. For anyone > who is using
a small display, it should function without pushing everything > off the side
of the screen. Google's analysis tool now calls it mobile > friendly. [...]


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Post by Clément OUDOT
2015-04-14 10:18 GMT+02:00 Hallvard Breien Furuseth
Post by Hallvard Breien Furuseth
It will drop in Google's ratings next week because it fails the
<https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/mobile-friendly/> tests.
Maybe someone can fix the web pages up a bit? I'm too busy now.
Already fixed in the mean-time?
Since I have easy access to make the changes, I went ahead and fixed this so
that for most purposes in non-mobile browsers things look the same, but on
mobile browsers everything is more friendly. The whole site could probably
use a revamp at some point, but solving the problem in front of us here (the
concern about google page rankings) without having to rework the site
* As Michael Ströder said, adding <meta name="viewport"
content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1">
* Changing the table with the bullet points on the main page so that it's
using floating divs instead of tables with columns, letting it wrap properly
for very narrow (mobile) displays.
The end result is that it should look the same for most users. For anyone
who is using a small display, it should function without pushing everything
off the side of the screen. Google's analysis tool now calls it mobile
friendly.
Well, thanks for fixing the mobile view.

But I think we could have a more general discussion about the look and
feel of the website. I agree OpenLDAP is dedicated to system
administrators, but this is not an excuse to have an, excuse me for
the term, "ugly" website.

There is also a work to do on the content, as some pages were not
updated since years, see for example: http://www.openldap.org/conf/

I am willing to help the community on this topic, if any help is welcome.


Clément.

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